The end is neigh (and GvG stuff)

[knight]

Yes, Knight has finally googled the BGN forums!

EDIT1: Thanks to Tower for making these templates; I moved them to the top for easier access: (I'll post monk builds later for those who care)

These are the template codes, to use them you must open your character's skill page, click the template button, select template code, and paste the code into the bottom space. Select Load and viola!


W/X Hundred Blade's Warrior: OQASEZKL+FgN1aFT1X/kAA
Equip : Pk5hnOtjkkaikpW/rIhpIRxQjpIHLnipI9UjgpIDrzh5OXB
*NOTE* You need Vamp Sword, Ebon Sword, Furious Spear.
You will need a cold/slash/pierce/light/crip shield as well

W/E Whirling Axe: OQYTgmILZKqoSEvhp4cQr4nQAA
Equip : Pk5hbOnjjkaikpW/rIhpIRxQjpIHLhipI9UjgpIDrzh5OTB
*NOTE* You need Vamp Axe, Ebon Axe, Furious Spear.
You will need a cold/slash/pierce/light/crip shield as well

R/Mo Mels Shot Ranger: OgMU8mLjzcOVtHjq5XnX9NzGBAA
Equip : PkpxcOfzjkqQhpIZxYjpIHLxipI9UpgpIDr7hpIfBA
*NOTE* You need 33% Crip Recurve, 33% Crip Longbow, Spear
You will need a cold/slash/pierce/light/crip shield as well

Me/N Fast cast necro: OQRDA5kHTSV7OlBMi1BCA/U5UA
Equip : Pk5hiMz6TTeMvKSlFMF5YnWMFpFIQMFpnaAMFZYtKMFZGA
*NOTE*You need 40/40 Inspir, 20/20 +60HP Curse Staff, Spear
You will need a cold/slash/pierce/light/crip shield as well

E/Me MB ele: OgVDEmy8O+5fxuoXsAoF4CBA
Equip : Pk5RjMz6TzfMvKSFHMF5YHYMF5HoScFpnKCMFZYNMMFpHA
*NOTE*You need 20/20 +60HP Fire Staff, Spear
You will need a cold/slash/pierce/light/crip shield as well

Mo/W Infuse: OwEU043BxKSkENgaEbaCETf4F1DA
Equip: Full sup runes, -50HP offhand; cast PS on yourself and you're good to go (I don't use PvP chars so I don't have equip templates).

Mo/W RC Prot: OwET8YoWRamgiYlQgom4BEvQLCA
Equip:

E/Rt Runner: OghkgILIjGyjZVrmxmYxzhZYt6B
Equip: Pk5RRP/XCTaikpWVqom1I90km1IFBTi7I9Qfm1IHrjm1IBB

EDIT2: I was even thinking that we could drop the ranger and run 2 MB eles; make them E/D with Featherfoot and Dwayna's Touch. They could act as split or gank if needed. Running the crip runes + crip shield with Featherfoot makes cripple end almost immediately which is nice. (On the fire map, you won't even get crippled). Template code: OgpjowMqKO+5exvYXgfpFmbcBA[/color][/size]

[meanelliott]

i like playing this build but i liked better a me/e snarebot in place of the ranger, i think...

also ive been wanting to try this bar for me/n : Sig Illusions, barbs, strip enchant, faintheartedness, diversion, auspicious incantation, ethereal burden, res sig

i like the extra snare and strip enchants removing two enchants and stealing health on a spike is just nice...the energy management is off the chain once you get used to it and diversion is basically just the extra slot that could really be anything, an interrupt, mark of fury, shame, arcane larceny, a spike skill, etc.

[RedArrow]

You mad scientists keep stirring up builds and I will try some on and give it my best I think I may do "coward" too well with any build I try though

[Asya]

I moved this out to the open part so more people will see it. I don't think many folks will be tracking us down for our build secrets.

" i liked better a me/e snarebot in place of the ranger" Some of the damage from barbs would be mitigated if this substitution was made.

[knight]

Things I like about rangers:
- solo gank
- D shot WoH (or any other skill)
- spread poison
- defend base against just about any 1 or 2 man split
- they can break dance

[karl]

Jul 21, 2009 16:50:59 GMT -5 knight said:

- they can break dance

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[towershield]

Jul 24, 2009 20:24:52 GMT -5 karl said:

Jul 21, 2009 16:50:59 GMT -5 knight said:

- they can break dance

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[Presort]

Jul 27, 2009 13:36:51 GMT -5 towershield said:

Jul 24, 2009 20:24:52 GMT -5 karl said:

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[slingblade]

One suggestion. I've never been a fan of having just 1 hexer in a build. Seems to me the hexes would be pretty quickly removed and little more than a nuisance if there's just 1 or 2 up at a time. Could the MB ele carry a run skill and serve the gank/anti-gank function of the Ranger so you could keep Elliott's caster in the build?

[knight]

This build isn't hex pressure, it's damage pressure. The fast cast necro bar looks like this:

(Me/N)
1. [E] Corrupt Enchantment - Serves as a DOT, ench removal (*mainly* against Fire eles to ruin their e-management), maybe a cover hex
2. Rip Enchantment - Serves as an enchant removal primarily, bleeding is a DOT but a lot of people run RC
3. Barbs - Adds a lot of damage to spikes and pressure
4. Defile Defenses - Can add damage, but it's main roll is a cover hex for Barbs.
5. Enfeeble - Huge damage mitigation, should be "spammed", used on warriors that are about to spike
6. Ether Phantom - Remove immediately with the next spell
7. Drain Delusions - Removes previous hex for -8 EN from foe, and I think +16 for you. These are a great combo, they can be spammed for EN denial monks or warriors, and management for you.
8. Rez sig - I'm not explaining this one (ever)

This build doesn't really worry about people removing hexes, mainly because they don't play that huge of a roll. Most of the time you're looking at a defile defenses being stripped anyways (If you're covering your hexes properly).

Also; DOT = Damage Over Time

[towershield]

I ran something similar to the Me/N in RA. I used Faintheartedness instead of Rip Enchantment, the Corrupt Enchant with a 40/40 set seems to be good enough to spam. Just a thought.

[towershield]

These are the template codes, to use them you must open your character's skill page, click the template button, select template code, and paste the code into the bottom space. Select Load and viola!


Hundred Blade's Warrior : OQASEZKL+FgN1aFT1X/kAA
Equip : Pk5hnOtjkkaikpW/rIhpIRxQjpIHLnipI9UjgpIDrzh5OXB
*NOTE* You need Vamp Sword, Ebon Sword, Furious Spear.
You will need a cold/slash/pierce/light/crip shield as well

Whirling Axe : OQYTgmILZKqoSEvhp4cQr4nQAA
Equip : Pk5hbOnjjkaikpW/rIhpIRxQjpIHLhipI9UjgpIDrzh5OTB
*NOTE* You need Vamp Axe, Ebon Axe, Furious Spear.
You will need a cold/slash/pierce/light/crip shield as well

Ranger : OgMU8mLjzcOVtHjq5XnX9NzGBAA
Equip : PkpxcOfzjkqQhpIZxYjpIHLxipI9UpgpIDr7hpIfBA
*NOTE* You need 33% Crip Recurve, 33% Crip Longbow, Spear
You will need a cold/slash/pierce/light/crip shield as well

Mesmer : OQRDA5kHTSV7OlBMi1BCA/U5UA
Equip : Pk5hiMz6TTeMvKSlFMF5YnWMFpFIQMFpnaAMFZYtKMFZGA
*NOTE*You need 40/40 Inspir, 20/20 +60HP Curse Staff, Spear
You will need a cold/slash/pierce/light/crip shield as well

Ele1 : OgVDEmy8O+5fxuoXsAoF4CBA
Equip : Pk5RjMz6TzfMvKSFHMF5YHYMF5HoScFpnKCMFZYNMMFpHA
*NOTE*You need 20/20 +60HP Fire Staff, Spear
You will need a cold/slash/pierce/light/crip shield as well

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[knight]

I've been testing different sin builds to replace the Me/N for a while. One was the Wounding Strike sin, which is pretty powerful. Others are a SA sin, or a "Coward!" sin. All of which are really strong and I think would make a good addition to the team.

The only thing we really lose is a strip enchantment, but that's mainly for ele attunes anyways. Let me know your oppinions

[Asya]

I changed up the whirling axe build by remove dismember and body blow and adding penetrating blow/chop. Call me n00b, but I think it adds more consistant damage, especially with all the warrior hate out there (blind).

Oops, I fogot to put a strength rune and Stonefist gloves on my warrior.

[azzie]

I altered the RC build to fit my own playstyle. Namely, whirlwind as the defensive skill and mend touch for self-removal of conditions. Works pretty well, just have to be careful with energy (and use SB sparingly).

[towershield]

Aug 6, 2009 10:26:22 GMT -5 Asya said:

I changed up the whirling axe build by remove dismember and body blow and adding penetrating blow/chop. Call me n00b, but I think it adds more consistant damage, especially with all the warrior hate out there (blind).

Oops, I fogot to put a strength rune and Stonefist gloves on my warrior.

Not looking for consistent damage with the bar. Dismember gives deep wound and Body Blow hits for around 110. That's to spike. Whirling hits at about 60 or so. Body + Dismember just keeps you able to kill things.