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Post by Aerynrox on Mar 31, 2006 22:52:41 GMT -5
But maybe Desmond saw it, and he went to one of the other stations on the "map?"
And dangit - I really thought we were going to find out how Locke became paralyzed. I had always feared that Helen died, but the ep gave me hope that maybe she just left him. Clearly Locke is terribly afraid of people leaving him.
Locke Rox - but I'm afraid maybe Morbid was right - that Gale is messing with everyone, including and especially Locke. Dangit. Now he's made a deal with the devil.
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Post by Indagatrix on Mar 31, 2006 22:55:28 GMT -5
What X and I think is : Locke's dad is the guy Sawyer wanted to kill.
What I think is : perhaps Helene was part of a big scam on Locke
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Post by Eldarion on Apr 1, 2006 1:46:00 GMT -5
I'm so glad my wife found Lostpedia. TONS of intriguing speculation, theories and information. The entry on the blast door is mesmerizing.
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Post by Aerynrox on Apr 1, 2006 8:58:39 GMT -5
Thanks again, Eld. That is a really fun site. That map is really exciting. I understand about 2 things on it..... Inda - I tend to doubt that Helen was in on it, but I think you guys are right about Sawyer's connection to Locke. So - do we think there was anything that the Lostees did to cause the Lockdown, or was it an automated, planned event? And what of those provisions? Joby seems to think that they came from inside the island - shot out and into the sky when the timer reached zero(we don't think Gale reset the system). He thinks that the dropping of supplies is what has been referred to as 'the incident." This is because he believes the new supplies, dropped when the timer hit zero, are going to cause illness. I don't really like that theory. I think the 'incident' was something more explosive, probably. I'm also not sure that the supplies came from inside the island. I rather favor the idea that they were dropped by an aircraft. About Gale - is it possible that he is who he claims to be and that the others, hoping to sew discontent, dug up his wife's grave and replaced her body with another and planted a fake ID? Edit: Casting Spoiler - Read today that Wayne Pygram of Farscape infamy is to appear in the April 12 ep. Cool!
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Post by TheUncleanOne on Apr 6, 2006 7:20:28 GMT -5
Well I think last night's episode may have added more questions than anything else...
** SPOILERS **
1) Hurly was 1 of 23 on a platform that was to hold 8... 2 of the Numbers there... Also, who do we think he killed (ok, no one really, but he was there of course)? Who on the island had a family/friend die in Hurly's accident? Time will tell.... Oooo! Mabye that is where Lock got put into a wheel chair? (Ok, probably not.)
2) Ok, so Hurly's gal was in the looney bin with him (not a suprise really, some of these things we can see comming)... but now she's a psycologist herself? This is possible but it does lead to other questions: a) Is she really who she says she is (knowing the writers, probably not)? b) Another island related coincidence or was she on the plane b/c she was following Hurly? c) If she was tranq. out of her skull as much as she seemed in the flashback, does she even remember Hurly from before? d) Does she know of the Numbers as well?
3) Did Mr. Gale actually enter the Numbers or not? He did know about the Hieroglyphs, and there did seems to be some other phase of the Lockdown that reveiled the map that Locke saw... however, since Gale is an Other, he may have simply been told (or knows from helping build the place?) what would happen when the timer runs out... Or here's my super conspiracy idea: Desmond let the timer expire once. The hatch when into lockdown mode, the magnet fired, and Desmond paniced and hit enter to re-set the system. The magnetic pulse was responsible for knocking the plane out of the air. When Desmond ran away earlier, he was caputured by the others and questioned, and that's why Gale knows what would happen if the timmer rolled to zero... Thus he did re-set the system during the lockdown, but he's baiting Locke to let the system fire as part of his mind games...
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Post by Aerynrox on Apr 8, 2006 10:14:18 GMT -5
Every thought I've had about Gale has been completely off-track, so I feel very underqualified to even respond. But, my best guess is that he did not let the counter run all the way down, that he is just baiting Locke as X says above. Do ya' think it's possible that the psychologist woman was in the hospital because she was a victim of or knew a victim of the falling balcony which Hurley feels responsible for? She might be out to get him! That feels wrong though, since she clearly could have pushed him off the cliff on the last ep. As far as mentally ill people becoming professionals in the field - I think that happens a lot. Obviously not with people who have serious and incurable illnesses like schizophrenia. Oooh. Wouldn't it be cool is the psychologist woman has multiple personality disorder. LOL at myself - I'm getting carried away.
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Post by Aeron Serabien on Apr 13, 2006 11:32:23 GMT -5
Spoilers, of course...............................................
Why did the Others free Michael?! Another attempt to infiltrate the survivors? Or did he escape?
Seems like X may be right that Gale was playing mind games with Locke about pressing the button. And why exactly didn't Gale run?
I really liked finding out more about Rose and Bernard, but this episode didn't do much for me in the suspense/mystery department. I literally said Jack's line with him after Kate said she was sorry for kissing him. "I'm not," was a rather obvious reply.
Anyhow, the girl in me likes my fix of juiciness, but lets get on with the kidnappings, beatings, mysterious maps, and mind games!
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Post by Indagatrix on Apr 13, 2006 12:15:46 GMT -5
more Mr. Eco please
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Post by Eldarion on Apr 13, 2006 13:52:16 GMT -5
Who said the Others ever captured Michael? He took off to find Walt but we never saw anything after that. (Unless I'm forgetting something.)
That closeup of 'Henry Gale' smiling as Locke was yelling at him through the door has got to be one of the creepiest things I've ever seen.
Three weeks to the next new ep. Intolerable!
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Post by Aeron Serabien on Apr 13, 2006 14:29:02 GMT -5
Who said the Others ever captured Michael? He took off to find Walt but we never saw anything after that. You're right. I made an assumption based on his beat-up appearance. A very silly thing to do regarding this show.
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Post by Aerynrox on Apr 15, 2006 14:13:11 GMT -5
A very interesting thing was revealed in the ep. Rose knows about Locke's having been in the wheelchair at the start of the flight. She and Locke both believe that the island has a good and beautiful power to heal. Both perhaps would be content to stay. Also of note: Wayne Pygram a.k.a. Scorpius from Farscape played the faith healer. It was good to see him again. At least Invasion is back next week. It will partially hold me over until the next Lost episode. Locke Rox
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Post by Aerynrox on Apr 21, 2006 9:42:45 GMT -5
Not so much about Lost, but about JJ Abrams' blossoming career and another topic close to my incredibly geeky heart:
Paramount has hired Mission: Impossible III director J.J. Abrams to write, direct and produce the 11th Star Trek feature film, aiming for a 2008 release, Variety reported. Damon Lindelof, who co-created Lost with Abrams, and Bryan Burk, who produces Lost, have also been tapped to produce the yet-to-be-titled feature.
The project will be co-written by Mission: Impossible III scribes Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci. It will center on the early days of original Trek characters James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock, including their first meeting at Starfleet Academy and first space mission, the trade paper reported.
The deal reflects Par's bullishness on Mission: Impossible III, which launches worldwide next weekend, and underlines the goal of Paramount heads Brad Grey Gail Berman to re-energize the pipeline via high-profile tentpoles while revitalizing the Paramount brand with top-tier talent such as Abrams, the trade paper reported.
The decision to relaunch Star Trek comes less than a year after UPN pulled the plug on Star Trek: Enterprise amid dismal ratings following a four-season run, and four years after Star Trek: Nemesis turned in the worst performance of the 10 films, earning just $43 million at the box office.
From Scifi.com
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Post by Eldarion on Apr 22, 2006 23:16:50 GMT -5
Because it's JJ, I'll be cautiously optimisitic. I personally think Corin Nemic, who played Jonas Quinn on SG-1, would make a good choice for a young Kirk. I bet they're going for a much, much younger cast, though, since it's starting at Starfleet Academy.
I read that JJ would be active in season 3 of Lost, but sounds like he'll be busy with this now. No worries. Lindelof and Cuse are doing a great job running Lost.
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Post by Indagatrix on Apr 23, 2006 10:10:55 GMT -5
Ummmm not to be a stickler -- but Kirk and Spock never met at Starfleet Academy.
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Post by Eldarion on Apr 24, 2006 9:10:38 GMT -5
Oh, well, I guess scifiwire got it wrong. Althought it wouldn't be the first time Paramount has revised the canon.
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Post by Aerynrox on Apr 25, 2006 7:33:50 GMT -5
Nothing is sacred anymore! I hadn't realized that Kirk and Spock did not meet at the academy. When were they supposed to have met?
Edit: Removed the information about 24 that I posted here in my confusion earlier today.
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Post by TheUncleanOne on Apr 25, 2006 8:30:06 GMT -5
Aerynrox... 24?! are you in the wrong thread?
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Post by Aerynrox on Apr 25, 2006 8:58:08 GMT -5
LOL - yes - I'm soooooo confused!
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Post by Eldarion on Apr 25, 2006 16:15:42 GMT -5
So, technically, Roxy is...lost?
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Post by Aerynrox on Apr 25, 2006 16:19:47 GMT -5
* having a 'why didn't i think of that' moment *
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Post by Morbid Eclipse on Apr 26, 2006 15:58:50 GMT -5
So back on topic...anyone watching the 3rd "Lost Special" tonight after Alias?? EDIT: Check out the Hanso Foundation, and get ready for our secret phone number that will air during Lost tonight!
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Post by Aerynrox on May 5, 2006 10:49:44 GMT -5
SPOILERS BELOW
Almost fast forwarded right through the fake Hanso Foundation commercial while Tivo watching the ep last night.
And 'zounds what an ep it was!
So, I assume Michael also killed Henry Gale, but that wasn't explicit. Anyone think I'm wrong? So glad Anna Lucia is dead. What a biatch she was! But I do have to admit I liked the way she wasn't afraid of physical confrontations with men. And I'm freaked out that she was apparently the only person alive who knew that Jack had/has a half-sister somewhere. Feel badly for Hurley, but could honestly care less that his girlfriend bought it. I'm wondering though, why they would go to the trouble of showing us that she and Hurley had been in the same hospital without advancing that story any further.
Poor Joby - a direct quote: "They're killing all the hot chicks!" ;D
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Post by Indagatrix on May 5, 2006 11:01:48 GMT -5
well X and I only caught the last 30 minutes -- but I think Michael let Henry go -- was told if he did Walt would be ok. have to watch the rest of the episode on abc.com to figure out the first part. Oh and I figured Anna would die b/c I read on some of the celeb news sites that the actress was a pain in the ass for the directors....but I did like the character OH and X did call the Hanso number and entered the lost digits when it asked for a code.
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Post by TheUncleanOne on May 5, 2006 11:01:54 GMT -5
So, I assume Michael also killed Henry Gale, but that wasn't explicit. Anyone think I'm wrong? Sorry Aeryn, you're wrong ... The deal Michael worked out with the 'others' for Walt was probably 2 fold: 1) Free 'Henry', if he was still alive. 2) Provoke a confrontation by leading the survivors into a trap picked by the 'others'. Michael's motivation is clear: He want's his son. Henry will be blamed for the killings during his escape feeding the fuel to attack the 'others'. Michael can easily make-up an excuse for why the vault was opened and how Henry may have freed himself... hell he can lay the blame on Anna if nothing else. The Other's motivation is that they don't want to share the island and they don't want to be found by the outside world. By leading the best of the survivors into the trap they have constructed, they can choose to kill the 'bad people', capture the 'good people' and generally collect the survivors that don't join the assult at thier leasure.
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Post by Aerynrox on May 5, 2006 11:08:52 GMT -5
duh - yes Inda and X, you are probably right. Michael did what he did to get Walt back after striking a deal with The Others. Sometimes the simplest plot points escape me.
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Post by Aeron Serabien on May 5, 2006 11:26:27 GMT -5
SPOILERS
Yeah, I liked this week's ep too. Nightpearl missed the commercial b/c he was doing dishes or some such silliness. By the time I realized what it was, he missed it. Ooops.
I actually don't think Libby's dead. She was holding the blankets very strangely and the shots went right through them. I'm betting that Jack gets back in time to save her or she was carrying something else that stopped the bullets. Like you, I can't see why they'd set up this plot line about the hospital and then drop it. Nightpearl, however, thinks the writers killed them both off because they keep getting in trouble in RL (drunk driving, partying, etc.) Also, didn't it look like Michael shot himself in the arm? Is he setting Henry up for something? My original theory was that the others sent him back to rescue Henry as a trade for Walt.
Two other nagging questions in my head: 1) I can't think of who the second "other" was that Ana killed. There was the infiltrator, but who was the 2nd one. As far as I can remember, Shannon is the only other person she's killed. 2) Doesn't Michael's description of the others sound really off from what we've seen? I'm wondering if there are 2 groups. The "silent primatives" we saw walking through the jungle, and the scientist types (Ethan, the guy with the fake beard, Alex, etc)
EDIT: Oops, I left the compose screen open for a while and missed Inda and X's posts saying a lot of the same stuff. I'll leave it all in anyway.
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Post by TheUncleanOne on May 5, 2006 11:43:37 GMT -5
Yes, Michael shot himself in the arm... he'll be the only survivor of Henry's 'escape'. (There was a scene of him with his arm in a sling for the next episode preview). His discription seems accurate, as it is a set-up for the trap, but Kate found the costume and make-up and told this to Jack, so its up in the air as to if there is more than one group of others, or if they just put on a show when they are about on the island.
Anna killed an unnamed other the same night Echo killed 2 of the others when thier group was attacked the 1st or 2nd night on the beach. Anna also killed Goodwin as well (of course).
And, sorry, Libby's dead... or at very least in a coma, as she would spoil Michael's plan if she was alive (or could communicate). Why bring this tragedy to Hurly? Well it's the numbers of course...
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Also, Inda posted ahead of me and I'm just now noticing it... no worries Aeron.
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Post by Aerynrox on May 5, 2006 11:51:27 GMT -5
I also think that Libby must be dead or at least incapacitated otherwise she will be able to reveal who shot her. I thought I saw lots of blood on the floor near her when she fell, but maybe it was my imagination.
Edit: Watched the scene again. It was not blood. It was a shadow on the floor. Libby may be alive. Maybe that's why the preview showed Michael in Gale's cell. Maybe his actions are revealed. That would certainly take the show in an unexpected direction.
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Post by Eldarion on May 5, 2006 13:09:37 GMT -5
Pretty sure Libby is dead because she's been cast in a new show on CBS's fall schedule. Always a clue: if they're in a show filmed in Hawaii yet they show up in LA during pilot season, they've been axed. (Dramatically and literally.)
Tell me, though, how Sawyer could put his pants back on after his little jungle mambo with Ana Lucia and FAIL TO NOTICE that he DIDN'T have a semi-automatic pistol stuck in his waitsband? Ana Lucia must be REALLY good...
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Post by Aerynrox on May 5, 2006 13:12:31 GMT -5
LOL - I wondered about that too, but then figured he never really even took his pants off. He probably just shimmied them down a bit - and was then so preoccupied with his *ahem* experience that he didn't think about the gun (not his big gun ) not being there. Men!
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